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The Space In-Between


This Podcast is en exploration, a search for the leadership our rapidly changing world needs going forward. It's a growing database of stories from leaders and followers, about experiences, life changing moments and lessons learned.

Sep 17, 2020

On this show I talk to Ralf Beuker. Ralf is the Dean of the Design Faculty at University of Applied Sciences Muenster, Germany and a professor of Design Management.
We talk about when to make jokes.. and when not, the transitions from chaos to order and back, the evolution of Design Management into Design Thinking and… how I ‘pissed him off’

We talk about how being too satisfied with ourselves and being stuck in routines can make us blind to change that is happening around us.