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The Space In-Between

This Podcast is en exploration, a search for the leadership our rapidly changing world needs going forward. It's a growing database of stories from leaders and followers, about experiences, life changing moments and lessons learned.

Mar 22, 2021

I talk with Silvia Baroni, Senior Strategic Designer, Business Innovation Studio at Volkswagen Group Services. Silvia grew up as a professional tennis player until an injury forced her to suddenly stop. So this talk is about life changing events, courage and perseverance. 


Feb 16, 2021

I talk with Emma Jefferies PHD. Emma is an author and expert on how to lead a movement of change with empathy. We talk about  courage, resilience, empathy and your inner child.


Jan 12, 2021

Sarah is an Expert in Design Thinking, Innovation Program Development, and Training Corporate Entrepreneurs & Innovative Leaders
Sarah calls herself a misfit, but she is actually always looking to build bridges. I talk to her about how she grew up, what shaped her and how she creates safe spaces for the creative teams...


Dec 14, 2020

Sarah Braud is an author, brand storyteller and content strategist.

We talk about how storytelling combines all of her passions. We also talk about art, design, her spiritual journey, a beautiful story of ‘the river and the rock’, being a parent and what really matters most in life.

Her upcoming books has the...


Nov 24, 2020

Jan-Erik is an author of the book Leading Design and professor of Design Management at the University of Applied Science and Arts in Lucern. We talk about his career at Philips Design, growing up as a Dutch-German hybrid and always trying to fit in while staying your authentic self.